Can't save incomplete articles (when skip duplicates)
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jmbailey2000
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Can't save incomplete articles (when skip duplicates)
For some reason, UE all of a sudden won't save incomplete articles (partial files). Hence, I can't get UE so save the partials files and then rebuild with PAR2 files. The option ion preferences is checked but greyed out. Any ideas?
i don't know what option you mean but probably it is not related to this issue.
the behaviour depends on the error, if it is "no such article" UE will save incompletes since it is rather a normal situation when some parts may be missing on your server while they are present in nzb file or they are indexed in UE search service, if some other error it is rather some drastic condition like connection lost, so UE won't save incompletes if there is some other error.
the option as to "no such article" erros is checked by default, properties->save/unpack, save, ignore no such article errors.
the errors you can check in tasks menu->task manager, the concole tab or the red question sign pane to the right of the articles tab (it is grey when no errors, it turns red when there is something there).
the behaviour depends on the error, if it is "no such article" UE will save incompletes since it is rather a normal situation when some parts may be missing on your server while they are present in nzb file or they are indexed in UE search service, if some other error it is rather some drastic condition like connection lost, so UE won't save incompletes if there is some other error.
the option as to "no such article" erros is checked by default, properties->save/unpack, save, ignore no such article errors.
the errors you can check in tasks menu->task manager, the concole tab or the red question sign pane to the right of the articles tab (it is grey when no errors, it turns red when there is something there).
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jmbailey2000
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Alex,
These are individual articles within the message (part 23 of 70 missing type error) which under previous versions of UE would get saved and then PAR2 files would recover the "incomplete" file. With the latest version of UE, this doesn't seem to happen any longer, partial files won't save.
And yes, the "the option as to "no such article" errors is checked by default, properties->save/unpack, save, ignore no such article errors. " is checked but is also greyed out and there doesn't seem to be a way to toggle that option (not that it makes a difference in this case).
Any ideas why UE won't save partial files all of a sudden?
These are individual articles within the message (part 23 of 70 missing type error) which under previous versions of UE would get saved and then PAR2 files would recover the "incomplete" file. With the latest version of UE, this doesn't seem to happen any longer, partial files won't save.
And yes, the "the option as to "no such article" errors is checked by default, properties->save/unpack, save, ignore no such article errors. " is checked but is also greyed out and there doesn't seem to be a way to toggle that option (not that it makes a difference in this case).
Any ideas why UE won't save partial files all of a sudden?
Sorry, I missed your note that the "Ignore no such article error" option is greyed out, it means the option is in fact disabled.
For the option to work the "Duplicate file names" mode must be set to "overwrite".
Because if it is "skip" and there are not enough parts initially UE won't save the file afterwards when more parts could arrive; if the mode is "rename" - UE could write many copies of the same file with different names.
Maybe you accidentally changed duplicates mode from overwrite (it is default) to something else, there is already a hint there "Overwrite will work best with unpack", so when you select something else it won't warn you again.
For the option to work the "Duplicate file names" mode must be set to "overwrite".
Because if it is "skip" and there are not enough parts initially UE won't save the file afterwards when more parts could arrive; if the mode is "rename" - UE could write many copies of the same file with different names.
Maybe you accidentally changed duplicates mode from overwrite (it is default) to something else, there is already a hint there "Overwrite will work best with unpack", so when you select something else it won't warn you again.
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jmbailey2000
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This must be a change in a recent version? I've always used "skip duplicate file names" because I found "overwrite" too dangerous for my liking. Since I haven't changed any settings in UE for months, and it used to save partials no problem, I assume this is a recent change or an unintended change or something that should have worked that way all along but never did? Personally, I'd like the partial save to work regardless of other settings. Just my $0.1928385462934747 worth....... 
it was changed in v2.6 around 3 months ago, was with the "rename" option along with automatic retries, there is a topic in the forum support section below.
you can save incompletes if you invoke "save attachments" (e.g. from the error tab even on everything there or newsgroup view) after the articles left article tab, if they are still being downloaded in the articles tab it will only affect the save path.
in principle i can keep the option enabled and leave it up to the user, since to address the problem i added back then code which prevents saving when no new parts have been downloaded on retry (it was the actual user issue, disabling no such article option on skip/rename I added on the top of that).
the negative side may be with skip / rename for newly arriving posts, but the most frequent case is nothing new is arriving then the option will work correctly in all modes, in short we just better leave this up to the user, maybe it was an overkill.
PS: done in v2.7.3
you can save incompletes if you invoke "save attachments" (e.g. from the error tab even on everything there or newsgroup view) after the articles left article tab, if they are still being downloaded in the articles tab it will only affect the save path.
in principle i can keep the option enabled and leave it up to the user, since to address the problem i added back then code which prevents saving when no new parts have been downloaded on retry (it was the actual user issue, disabling no such article option on skip/rename I added on the top of that).
the negative side may be with skip / rename for newly arriving posts, but the most frequent case is nothing new is arriving then the option will work correctly in all modes, in short we just better leave this up to the user, maybe it was an overkill.
PS: done in v2.7.3
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jmbailey2000
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