Problem with Import group

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Josef K
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Problem with Import group

Post by Josef K »

I've found that I can no longer download things from NZBs. I've been trying to find a pattern to this but as of yet I can't. I've been using a.b.nl and binsearch.info (which worked in the past) but now they don't. I know that IE sometimes corrupts certain filetypes so I've tried different methods such as using Opera, Firefox and downloading NZBs with Getright. None of these work and I've been opening them in a text editor to check they are downloaded as text and not binary.

What happens is that I import the NZB in different ways (double-click in Explorer or open it right from the web page) and then go to download it in UE. I can select the article(s) but key presses and the right-click menu have no effect.

I tried deleting the group since there is an option when you create a new group for an 'Import' type (what is this for anyway?) but all it did was the same as a reset.

If I export to an NZB from UE itself, I seem to be able to download things with no problems - just not by using NZBs from an external source. I've tried varying ages to rule out the articles not being present on the server. However, I do notice that with a search for an NZB for an article already present (in one of my groups I've downloaded headers for) the article downloads straight away.

To add insult to injury, one of the several NZBs I've been trying to get working is immediately downloading fine with GrabIt.
Josef K
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Post by Josef K »

Update:

I've now downloaded the headers for the group I was trying to use the NZB with. I've exported the header for the articles I wanted and then reimported them back into UE. They download fine so it appears that UE can not download anything that isn't already in its DB.
blackdog56
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Post by blackdog56 »

I am currently downloading fine from Binnews.com without any headers in the DB.
alex
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Post by alex »

can you give here a link to a specific nzb e.g. from alt.binaries.nl (i checked it looks like working, i opened a file from the web page).

then email me the same nzb for some case.

i don't understand what you mean by right mouse button, if you don't see the context menu there is something wrong with the system.
Josef K
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Post by Josef K »

Well like I said earlier, I could do that but not any more.

I don't often use NZBs so I can't pinpoint anything in particular that might have changed or corrupted something. I did have a crash (system freeze, actually, requiring a reset) several weeks ago that I had to help UE recover from. Since I don't use the Import group all that much it shouldn't have been loaded and therefore should not have been affected by such a thing as a crash.
alex
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Post by alex »

try to look for something on alt.binaries.nl, then copy here the direct link to a nzb file which doesn't work i'll try it from here.
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Post by alex »

http://www.binaries.nl/nzb/?id=35038757

is working? here it is working.
Josef K
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Post by Josef K »

http://alt.binaries.nl/nzb/?id=34856278
(Girlfriend = BIG Kate Bush fan.)

The header for this is now in my DB but still does not download.
alex wrote:i don't understand what you mean by right mouse button, if you don't see the context menu there is something wrong with the system.
I do see the context menu. I mean that I can not download anything by using either the keyboard or context menu.
alex wrote:http://www.binaries.nl/nzb/?id=35038757

is working? here it is working.
Gary Moore... good choice. It doesn't work here though.
alex
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Post by alex »

no problem here.

i just typed "flowers" and took the first match, i'm listening only classical music like Bach, i don't have any idea about Gary Moore, i only remember Kenny Roasters :)

you can delete the import group storage manually, check the newsgroup number in map.txt in newsgroup directory but i think it is not the cause.

check whether you have servers attached to the import group, maybe it doesn't have servers, if it doesn't invoke advanced->attach all servers.

there may be a problem with xpat groups, they autodetach servers for non-existing groups (the problem was reported two days ago and it looks like so, at least i'll recheck it and if so it will be fixed in the next release, i'm not sure whether it is the case with import groups). right now indexing takes all the time, i just put a note in to do list.
Josef K
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Post by Josef K »

alex wrote:check whether you have servers attached to the import groups, maybe it doesn't have servers.
Well sometimes it's the simplest of things... :oops:

I remember that particular system freeze I mentioned earlier deleted a lot of attached servers which I had to manually reattach. This obviously affected the Import group as well. I'm glad this is fixed again now - I'd hate to use another program to fight for the bandwidth with UE.

All is calm... All is well... :D

P.S. Just why is there an option to create an import type group? It seems like there can only be one import group at a time. It's not like you can tell UE to import specific NZBs to certain groups.
alex
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Post by alex »

when you open another import group and invoke 'import' from the menu it will import there, but auto options and probably doubleclicking will go into the default group.

also search service will go into the import group currently selected in the search service dialog bar.
Josef K
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Post by Josef K »

alex wrote:also search service will go into the import group currently selected in the search service dialog bar.
I see. Or rather I didn't because I don't subscribe to any NZB pay sites so I have the toolbar turned off but now I do see it after switching in on temporarily.

So I suppose you could create several import type groups for films, music, etc. and select particular searches to fill those groups to minimise clutter.

Also I realised that not having the servers attached to the import group must account for why I could only download where the articles were already in the DB. There must be some correlation where the articles tell the Import group that there are, indeed, servers available whereas external NZBs do not.
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Post by The Cat »

Thx for the attach all servers tip. I wondered why importing NZB did not work any more. Me to had a crash and apperently it did remove all servers from the import group.
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