select related headers does not always work? (search service

bassie · Post by **bassie** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:18 pm

In the result of a search with the search service,
i usually select one file by left clicking and with rightclick do "select related headers".
Usually all files are selected and i can then download it.

However, sometimes it selects only 1 file.

For example if i look for:

"CD-DVD-ISO Burning Center"

from last Sunday in a.b.warez

Why not all related files are selected, and only the file i click on?

Josef K · Post by **Josef K** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:25 pm

Might it not have to do with that bloody PowerPost yet again? I notice (if what I get from a search is the same you are referring to) that it lists each file as [29/whatever] which is completely wrong.

I find that all incorrectly posted files by that program have the same effect on 'Select related headers', pretty much rendering it useless in those cases. This is especially apparent when the file numbering is listed at the beginning of the subject line and there are different files posted all-in-one (floods, etc.).

alex · Post by **alex** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:11 am

it doesn't have to work always, this is a heuristic algorithm which tries to guess related files, i tried to find the optimal solution so it works fast and for many cases.

you may give me full subjects here first and i would tell why, the algorithm can be adjusted as well, if it is something logical.

power post was always a real problem, if the program wouldn't be written and people were using posters provided with newsreaders given newsreader authors are much more concerned about correctly posted subjects we would have much better picture now, just someone who doesn't have any experience in writing usenet clients created such a mess, then he tried to write a binary downloader but in the end he disappeared completely from the scene. when yenc was introduced i added it to power post and in the same time also restricted the subject format but even although the current power post A&A is based on my adjusted version they undid my changes in this regard and even introduced other dreadful options like an option to post parts as a thread.

maybe to adjust power post again to make it to generate well formatted subjects which can be easily parsed, they didn't have changes for 2 years, maybe it would propagate then.

bassie · Post by **bassie** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:14 pm

good to know what causes it and it is not a mistake of ue.

it is not a real problem of course, i can live with it.

dengle · Post by **dengle** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:26 pm

I just performed the same search. These are the only headers:

Code: Select all

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
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alex · Post by **alex** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:30 pm

it looks like file numbers are in hebrew

Josef K · Post by **Josef K** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:55 pm

Those were the files I was refering to with each one being numbered 29 in the series. The question has to be asked - how can someone release software that posts this messily? Surely with the amount of users PowerPost and the like have, how come no-one has reported the problems? Or is the author just too stubborn and/or ignorant that they just don't care?

alex wrote:it looks like file numbers are in hebrew

Making me think that the software should add a tag at the end (like yEnc posters sometimes do and should always). Maybe if there was a Hebrew tag then UE could be taught to make sense of it all and read right to left.

What's next? ROT13 the subjects and file numbers? Messy, just plain messy.

Ideally you would release a very simple yet powerful freeware poster, Alex. If you'd steal all the best parts from other programs (why not if it could solve the problem?) then flood the world with it. Go on... ten minutes of your time...