MSG-Id and XPat

Flugel · Post by **Flugel** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:04 am

Guys/Girls,

I have setup NP in such a way that a XPat is performed on server 1 and the articles should be downloaded from server 2 by MsgId. However, I get an 'article not found' error on server 2. When I download the complete headerlist of server 2 I see the articles and I am able to donwload them.

Should I contact my news-provider, or is it a NP setting/issue?

many thanks!

jaapf · Post by **jaapf** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:09 am

Might server 2 be a Usenet.com server?
In that case the problem lies with that server. As far as I understand, they internally change the Message ID's.

Flugel · Post by **Flugel** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:34 am

Ultrafeed.... yep according to their website it's a usenet server.
So there's nothing I can do then, accept wait for XPat on server2? (According to the admin they're going to support XPat in March this year)

--edit--
correction: I've not read the website to detailed and it seems I misinterpretated the information. I'm not sure anymore whether this is a redirection to a usenet.com server. I'll ask that via mail.

starbbs · Post by **starbbs** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:45 pm

erstand you correctly, alex made a fix for usenetservers. Just put a double ## AND the name of the group in where to search for. This works

so if you want an xpat search in alt.test

create a:

##alt.test

group.

This is a fix, cause now everytime you want todo a xpat on usenetserver, you have to create a ##groupname

Flugel · Post by **Flugel** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 1:52 pm

hmm.. ok. That's nice to know for future pupose, since Ultrafeed doesn't support XPat yet.
But is there also a way to enable this for nbz files?
When I import such a file a newsgroup with the nam #~import is created. If I rename this to ##~import? Should that be enough to enable downloading from Ultrafeed?

alex · Post by **alex** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:31 pm

if it is not xpat - as to usual groups all should work unless they disabled retrieving by message-id (looks like so).

in such a case nothing can be done because to get local article numbers on the server you have to download the headers from it.

why they run such broken implementations - i have no idea.

import works more or less as xpat group so it won't work for such a server.

i think there is a choice and it is easy to find a provider who supports the nttp protocol properly.

Flugel · Post by **Flugel** » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:21 am

So true, so true....
According to the admin they work without msg-ids... that was it for ultrafeed, I changed to Astraweb now... and I must say NewsPro works excellent. Both XPAT and the .nbz files!!

/me happy

Tnx for all your help guys